Soot Powered Ported Intake?

[Powerstroked162]

Word.



Steve is just a softy h8eroke:

LOL. S-O-EFFFFFFFFFFFFF-T

 

[jkidd_39]

It's pretty clear that there won't be pictures of even just the exterior of these manifolds wont be posted and it's also clear that those of us who make them can expect to see our hardwork, r&d, and designs copied.

Steve,

What is the purpose of this.attack? All I see you do.is attack people and there products.

If anything you.make people want the competitor's product because you come.off.as.such a tool.

Congrats you make a nice product but the way you act drives off customers. I would.never purchase anything from you BC of the way you represent your company.

Do you realize the way you.come off??



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[Dustball8504]

Steve,

What is the purpose of this.attack? All I see you do.is attack people and there products.

If anything you.make people want the competitor's product because you come.off.as.such a tool.

Congrats you make a nice product but the way you act drives off customers. I would.never purchase anything from you BC of the way you represent your company.

Do you realize the way you.come off??



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AWOL in 3.....2.....1......

 

[blk350on20s]

^^^^ you sir are correct LOL

 

[04stroker]

LOL I just assumed it was already in AWOL. I can tell you though Matt has spent a lot of time on a flow bench with these intake manifolds and 6.0 heads. I will let him post numbers if he wishes but it is very impressive.

 

[Powerstroked162]

Steve,

What is the purpose of this.attack? All I see you do.is attack people and there products.

If anything you.make people want the competitor's product because you come.off.as.such a tool.

Congrats you make a nice product but the way you act drives off customers. I would.never purchase anything from you BC of the way you represent your company.

Do you realize the way you.come off??



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I have always said I am not for everybody lol. Being open and honest is how I run my business. If that honesty steers you clear of absolute, well than I guess that's just how it goes. I've never been accused of BS'ing people and being in the customers shoes for many years prior to absolute I was bs'd an awful lot. Now that I'm in the driver's seat, and helping others who are where I was, I make sure to be as straight as possible and honest as can be. It offends some and it pleases others. The same could be said of a BS'er. I'm sorry you don't like how I portray myself online or in life. There is nothing I can do about that. Best of luck to you though

 

[Beans71086]

And do you remember why I would not post pics of the interior work? I presume you did see the finished products on here as well?

I saw the finished product, looks sharp and very much like factory. But that doesn't mean that you couldnt snap a picture somewhere between cutting them open to port them and welding them back together. Honestly Steve I really don't care either way, it was just an early morning poke at you, I knew it was going to happen very shortly in this thread, so I wanted the first one.

 

[Powerstroked162]

 

[jkidd_39]

I have always said I am not for everybody lol. Being open and honest is how I run my business. If that honesty steers you clear of absolute, well than I guess that's just how it goes. I've never been accused of BS'ing people and being in the customers shoes for many years prior to absolute I was bs'd an awful lot. Now that I'm in the driver's seat, and helping others who are where I was, I make sure to be as straight as possible and honest as can be. It offends some and it pleases others. The same could be said of a BS'er. I'm sorry you don't like how I portray myself online or in life. There is nothing I can do about that. Best of luck to you though

Best of.luck to you as well. That is seriously the first.post.from you I've seen that was courtious and to the point. No attacks or BS.

Well played sir

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[O2ShootTheJ]

I would love to see a comparison of the 4 manifolds, Elite, gogo, soot powered, and absolute (if they have a 6.4 mani)

 

[powerlifter405]

However, you did say it best, it's bad business ethics to plagiarize. It takes a really special piece of garbage to copy somebody else and claim it as their own.

You've used the word plagiarize and plagiarism to describe what would more correctly called patent, copyright or trademark infringement. But none of these manifolds are, so it is a moot point.

Plagarize, generally is used for written word.

Like it was said, if it is such a big deal look into patenting your product. There are enough, needing only one in this case but its not, ported manifold for some tom, dick or harry to buy one, open it see what we all know needs to be done for basic work, and copy it.

I mean really, how many versions of the BFG Mt design is there, procomp, nitto, , wrangler, etc.. up until just a few years ago they were all nearly identical but BFG sold their own like hotcakes, copy cats or not.

If absolute performance refuses to post some more pics, do you have any bench flow #'s, dyno sheets, etc?

Really how can you request photos if you are unwilling to do so yourself.

BTW, it is Dougs manifold you sell or your "own" design. http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=643&highlight=intake

You say you wanted to go a different route, how are customers to be assured of this? You showed one pic of a 6.0 that I can find but thats it.
And, fwiw you appeared to be, at one point, selling Dougs manifolds but you pass it off as a lesser product, you may have not meant it but as a 3rd party viewer it appeared that way:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Fox
Well lets hear what the reasons are... to me it makes no sense to keep it a secret if the object is to get people to buy them.

I agree flow numbers will tell a lot and dyno numbers too if you can do a direct comparison with no other changes from a stock manifold to the apex manifold.

Lol, dude, keep your Gogo manifold. I can't give you the answers you are looking for right now apparently and I'm almost insulted that you continue to question my integrity like Im out here to screw people over because I didn't have time to leave my full-time job to run across the county to get a picture of the machine work. If thats your only gripe, then I guess Im doing pretty good, but damn, lay-off. It's been in my hands for less than 48hrs

If it does really mean so much, patent your goods and call it a day.
Good luck.

 

[PTSUPERD]

Steve used to work for GoGo. Hasn't in some time....

I have both manifolds...they are not the same.

 

[PTSUPERD]

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[SouthFlstrokin']

Ok this post proves nothing if they are internally the same or not.

 

[SouthFlstrokin']

Let's see flow rates between the two

 

[SouthFlstrokin']

Since you have the both of them there.... But put the tops back on thee gogo when you do LOL

 

[PTSUPERD]

Ok this post proves nothing if they are internally the same or not.

You are correct sir. LOL

I got no dog in this hunt. You guys carry on with the pissing match.

:morons:

 

[PTSUPERD]

Since you have the both of them there.... But put the tops back on thee gogo when you do LOL

Old pic... APEX is already installed. Dorian at PSE bought the stage 1

 

[Dustball8504]

We really have yet to see if any of the intakes are worth it for the cost. If I were building one I would atleast dyno test it before and after and make some data logs before it was even available to the public.

 

[SouthFlstrokin']

LOL There is only so many ways to skin a cat. Your best bet is to go with whoever your most comfortable with