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This is to all Elite 6.4 Headstud customers.
First off I would like to say that we never intended to mislead anyone. When we first offered the 6.4 studs we did not call them H-11. When I was planning out the studs I had read early marketing information from ARP that stated their upcoming 6.4 studs would be made from 8740. We decided to specify 1722 which was the next step up in the material lineup. On the 6.0 we had H-11 which was also one step up over the ARP's. We also knew that 1722 in the larger 6.4 diameter would give similar clamping force to the 6.0L H-11 and we knew those were working well for us. What would be the point to offer a stud that was equal to ARP? We never have wanted to go "toe to toe" with ARP. We always wanted something that was better and to offer our customers an upgrade alternative.
When I was selling 6.4 studs to people I would say that they were not H-11 but due to the larger size did give comparable results to 6.0L H-11's, which we were pleased with. Perhaps this is where the confusion started. I am not sure. I do believe at one time on our site it even stated this comparison. Also we have always believed that we had a better material than the ARP's. When we recently discovered that ARP in fact did make their studs from the same material as we had it was a surprise and we correspondingly dropped our pricing. I don't spend anytime researching ARP's product and really had no idea up until recently. I can tell you that even though it is the same material we have always held pride in A1's craftsmenship and quality. We developed the torque specs with A1 and had always been pleased with the product. We do not feel the product was or is a poor quality. Also we had considerable expense in making the studs as we had to purchase the tooling for A1 to make the studs, which correspondingly set our retail price (which is why they were quite a bit more expensive originally). We are not able to purchase the A1 studs for the cheaper price that the ARP's can be purchased for, so we did not blatantly try to charge people even more than the ARP's, we just charged what we needed to to make it worth it to sell. We truly felt we had a better product and have had many customers pleased with the product.
For those of you that felt you were misled I extend this offer. Please email me at [email protected] and I will work with each of you on a case by case basis to try and make things right. Elite Diesel has been accused of many things and we are guilty of being slow and short-staffed. We are not dishonest and will not tolerate dishonest staff.
Again I apologize.
Thank you,
Tadd Layton
Elite Diesel Engineering
First off I would like to say that we never intended to mislead anyone. When we first offered the 6.4 studs we did not call them H-11. When I was planning out the studs I had read early marketing information from ARP that stated their upcoming 6.4 studs would be made from 8740. We decided to specify 1722 which was the next step up in the material lineup. On the 6.0 we had H-11 which was also one step up over the ARP's. We also knew that 1722 in the larger 6.4 diameter would give similar clamping force to the 6.0L H-11 and we knew those were working well for us. What would be the point to offer a stud that was equal to ARP? We never have wanted to go "toe to toe" with ARP. We always wanted something that was better and to offer our customers an upgrade alternative.
When I was selling 6.4 studs to people I would say that they were not H-11 but due to the larger size did give comparable results to 6.0L H-11's, which we were pleased with. Perhaps this is where the confusion started. I am not sure. I do believe at one time on our site it even stated this comparison. Also we have always believed that we had a better material than the ARP's. When we recently discovered that ARP in fact did make their studs from the same material as we had it was a surprise and we correspondingly dropped our pricing. I don't spend anytime researching ARP's product and really had no idea up until recently. I can tell you that even though it is the same material we have always held pride in A1's craftsmenship and quality. We developed the torque specs with A1 and had always been pleased with the product. We do not feel the product was or is a poor quality. Also we had considerable expense in making the studs as we had to purchase the tooling for A1 to make the studs, which correspondingly set our retail price (which is why they were quite a bit more expensive originally). We are not able to purchase the A1 studs for the cheaper price that the ARP's can be purchased for, so we did not blatantly try to charge people even more than the ARP's, we just charged what we needed to to make it worth it to sell. We truly felt we had a better product and have had many customers pleased with the product.
For those of you that felt you were misled I extend this offer. Please email me at [email protected] and I will work with each of you on a case by case basis to try and make things right. Elite Diesel has been accused of many things and we are guilty of being slow and short-staffed. We are not dishonest and will not tolerate dishonest staff.
Again I apologize.
Thank you,
Tadd Layton
Elite Diesel Engineering
