torque converter

[hotrod]

Alright im thinking imma have to doa torque converter in my 96 powerstroke the overdrive light is flashing and it shifts hard from first into second gear, someone told me togo with a 5r 110 tc torque converter is this a good idea?

 

[TheSmokinStroke2002]

Alright im thinking imma have to doa torque converter in my 96 powerstroke the overdrive light is flashing and it shifts hard from first into second gear, someone told me togo with a 5r 110 tc torque converter is this a good idea?

I believe you have to machine the input shaft for the 5r converter to fit but I know it is a lot more stout of a converter compared to a stock 4r or e4od in your case.

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[lukesdiesel]

I would just go with a good DPC converter from Phil.

Luke

 

[TheSmokinStroke2002]

I would just go with a good DPC converter from Phil.

Luke

that too. or a precision converter. not sure how those compare in price.

 

[GatorBaitR6]

you can always check out Brian at Brians Truck Stop... Good stuff... Good customer service...

 

[hotrod]

Whats dpc and where do i go?

 

[JK Fab]

Whats dpc and where do i go?

Im curious who dpc is as well.

Jeff

 

[lukesdiesel]

DPC is Diesel Performance Converters aka Phil Taylor.

Luke

 

[OBSWIZ]

Sorry late seeing this but nothing has to be done to use our 6.0 converter on a 4r trans unlike a PI, these are good to 400++ HP..PM me if I can help

 

[Racer X]

Racer X Converters on Sale!

Please see this thread on converters on sale in our forum in the sponsors section: Racer X USA Billet Converter Sale!

If you want a billet converter custom stalled to 6.0 specs we can do that for about $100 more than what a 6.0 converter made to fit a 7.3 costs, at our regular everyday pricing. During the sale the discount will apply also!.

We think for the huge difference in quality, spending a little extra to get our Eagle series billet converter that is made with all new materials is a better choice, than choosing a rebuilt stock 6.0 converter adapted to fit a 7.3. Racer X Eagle Torque Converter

Our XRTC prowler series diesel converter is good to 400 + HP, cost less than a 6.0 converter adapted to fit a 7.3 does, plus they are a newer and stronger design than the O.E.M. stock Ford converters for 6.0 and 7.3L's ever were! The Prowler XRTC Converter

All of our converters were co-designed with a NASA payload engineer and each went through 2 years of extensive development and testing before ever being offered to the public. There are few others who have made the investment in equipment, design technology and made the long road commitment to make quality the first priority instead of sales like we have.
To learn more, please visit our about us page also. About Racer X USA

Thank you,
Racer
Product research and development consultant to the automotive industry.
Certified specialist on automotive electronic control systems, diesel and gasoline engines, Custom transmission, Powertrain, Engine and Torque Converter Builder.

 

[OBSWIZ]

Sorry but your assumption that your converter is cheaper is incorrect...plus a stock 6.0 converter can and does handle 500HP 6.0's so for a 7.3 with stock to stage 1's is more than up to the task...

Your XRTC is also stronger than Ford 6.0L diesel torque converters..if so why do you say this?
The XRTC is not recommended for any competition use, doing burnouts or towing goose neck or fifth wheel trailers weighting over 7000lbs when fully loaded. If you have engine horsepower modifications such as larger fuel injectors, aftermarket add on turbo or larger than O.E.M. turbo charger, or any racing, off road or other competition use of your vehicle we recommend the Eagle Series converters which are full billet, competition and heavy load rated.

NASA payload engineer designing converters...ok ya got me there these are designed just by guys building converters for a living...

 

[woodduck97]

Do not use that 6.0 converter from RECON which some sell. It has trashed 2 transmissons that I have seen them installed into.

 

[Bobby@cp]

Instead of throwing parts at it why not get it hooked to a good code reader and find out EXACTLY why your trans is acting up.

 

[OBSWIZ]

Do not use that 6.0 converter from RECON which some sell. It has trashed 2 transmissons that I have seen them installed into.

. It will not work on an E4OD/4R100

anything can fail. But, I really don't know a failure rate on them. I only have experience with what I've been selling. Out of the ones I've sold, there has only been one that failed and I'm not convinced at all that the trans didn't cause the failure as there is no telling what happened because I never received anything to have inspected because the customer cut it open and didn't return it.

 

[black974door]

thats right i cut mine open and also my buddys, which both were bought from you. im not at all bashing you Cary just the converters. to the op, those "6.0" converters that are being sold to cary are junk. only thing good is a billet back bowl. but they only have single clutch and narrow sprag. they weren't even 6.0 low stall top covers. o and it did have harden splines

 

[JAP]

PI Stallion converters are proven... And we have the best pricing.

That's all I'm going to say... BTS uses the same. I have one in my truck. Stock transmission with PI Stallion and Sonnax Tricumulator. "Experts" said it wouldn't hold and I would be wasting my money... Works perfectly after 4 years and over 100 passes...

Just my input.

Diesel Innovations

 

[JAP]

I'm also not sure what Cary is referring to that had to be done to make the PI Stallion work... But whatever it is, I didn't do it. Just pulled the old one out and put the new one in.

I would also like to say that the OP probably doesn't need a converter...


Diesel Innovations

 

[Racer X]

Alright im thinking imma have to doa torque converter in my 96 powerstroke the overdrive light is flashing and it shifts hard from first into second gear, someone told me togo with a 5r 110 tc torque converter is this a good idea?

No, 6.0 converters don't fit 7.3L Powerstroke Diesels correctly. The 6.0 converter when compared to a 7.3 converter has two dimensional differences in size. While the 6.0 converter will bolt up, the studs will not center in the 7.3L's flex plate holes. The pilot to cover also has a different dimension. Both of the dimensional differences will cause unbalance and vibration whether the driver can feel it or not, which in turn accelerates wear on crankshaft and rod bearing in the engine and gear-train connected parts in the transmission.

This is why Ford does not sell or advertise the 6.0 converter for use in 7.3L Powerstroke Diesel trucks.

To make a 6.0 converter fit a 7.3 correctly the 6.0 cover must be cut off and replaced with a 7.3 cover. Then the converter must be rebalanced correctly or the above problems will still occur. Once a converter is cut open, it loses up to 0.285" or a little over 1/4" of an inch of material. It makes accurate re-balance of an O.E.M. converter difficult at best and perfect alignment of converter clutch splines near impossible.

An aftermarket converter has more material and is better suited to being opened and successfully reassembled and balanced correctly.

Racer
Product research and development consultant to the automotive industry.
Certified specialist on automotive electronic control systems, diesel and gasoline engines, Custom transmission, Powertrain, Engine and Torque Converter Builder.
https://www.racerxusa.com

 

[Tom S]

Nice to see people talking reasonably when there are some disagreements on a subject of some contention!!!

 

[Racer X]

Sorry but your assumption that your converter is cheaper is incorrect...plus a stock 6.0 converter can and does handle 500HP 6.0's so for a 7.3 with stock to stage 1's is more than up to the task...

Your XRTC is also stronger than Ford 6.0L diesel torque converters..if so why do you say this?
The XRTC is not recommended for any competition use, doing burnouts or towing goose neck or fifth wheel trailers weighting over 7000lbs when fully loaded. If you have engine horsepower modifications such as larger fuel injectors, aftermarket add on turbo or larger than O.E.M. turbo charger, or any racing, off road or other competition use of your vehicle we recommend the Eagle Series converters which are full billet, competition and heavy load rated.

NASA payload engineer designing converters...ok ya got me there these are designed just by guys building converters for a living...

Cary,
Ford doesn't recommend using the 6.0 converter for 500 hp or for competition, or for use in the 7.3L either. The reason is because it wasn't designed for it.

I see your willing to promote it and hopefully warranty it for 400 -500 horsepower and for use in a 7.3L. That is fine with us.

"Designed just by guys building converters for a living..." I disagree they are designing anything. What they are doing is modifying another converter that had a designer and patent protection from copying, rather than designing their own converter from scratch.

Reference this PSA thread for 6.0 converter vibration: http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14288

We designed the Prowler XRTC to offer a stronger stock replacement converter that won't fly apart and ruin the transmission like the O.E.M. Stock Ford converters can do when they fail catastrophically. The 6.0 and 7.3 O.E.M. converters both can fail catastrophically, fly apart internally like a bomb exploding with metal shrapnel entering the transmission and ruining it.
Stock converters have 3 common failures, one of which is the fly apart that causes the above additional damage to the transmission. Eliminating the fly apart failure and offering a better replacement product than the same converter that just failed, for stock trucks or heavy work trucks was our goal with the Prowler XRTC. The design will handle 400 + hp, up to the weight carrying and tow rating capacities of the 99 up Super Dutys, the F and E 450's and all F150-F350 trucks are rated for. We didn't design or price it for performance use, testing it revealed it will hold more horsepower than stock, and over 400 hp. It's not designed or going to hold up to everyday competition use anymore than a 6.0 converter will, and we don't wish to mislead anyone into thinking it would. We don't recommend using it at 400 + hp for non street legal driving. That should be clear and understandable by all reading. It's also on our website's description of the Prowler XRTC. There isn't anything cheap in high performance, cheap and high performance are complete opposites.

We have the Eagle series for high performance and competition use, it's designed and built for it and for those who are heavy towing over the maximum weight rating. To do those activities, one has to buy products that increase horsepower, many of which offer no warranty. Any converter that is designed and warrantied to handle extra horsepower from products with no warranty themselves, will not be easy or cheap to build or low in cost for buyers. By bridging the gap between $1000 to $1600 converters and $400-$600 modified O.E.M. converters with the Eagle series, we have done what many others tried and couldn't do at all and did it without sacrificing the quality one used to have to spend $1000 and up to have.