Using my PCS as a nitrous controller

Dieselboy.

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I think I may have found a way to use my PCS to act as a progressive controller for my nitrous system.
As of right now it only has one master arm switch. The rest is done via the PCS. No WOT switch to set up or tap into your TPS. No push button to fumble around and try to hit when you think its a good time and hope your right.
My first stage is controlled via PMW vs TPS. It will only activate once it sees 100% throttle. As soon as it sees 99% and under it kills power (so this is safety switch 1 (in the video I fudged things around just so I didn't have to bag on it to show how it works.) I also realize I called it a pulse width modifier whens its actually modulation :doh: :pointlaugh:

The second stage is controlled via PMW vs MPH. Basically I went through my datalogs and looked at my MPH coming into 2nd gear and lockup and started there. (Roughly 16MPH) From there it starts modulating at 27% and is at 100% by roughly 40MPH
The way the 2nd stage activates is by completing the ground on the solenoid.

My master arm activates the relay which takes power from PMW5 and sends it to both solenoids as soon as it sees WOT (100%)
The 1st stage solenoid is grounded to chassis.
The 2nd stage now has power and once it sees 16MPH, PMW4 which is selected to be a ground will start at 27% PMW and continue to 100% ground by 40ish MPH

Once anything less the 100% throttle is seen by the PCS it will kill power to the relay and thus killing both solenoids. If that for some reason fails, my master arm is a full cut off.

I quickly wired this all in the cab to test using 2 LEDs. The flickering is just from the programming. I quickly fudging the values so from 10-30% TPS would activate it and the rest was set to 0. So it was on the tip of that value.
Now I just need to fill the bottle and wire it in and strap her to the dyno and see if it actually works.
Side note: There are more the just TPS and MPH to activate the PWM. I just think those will work best for me.

Any one that has experience feel free to chime in, especially on jet sizes and how fast to ramp in.
Ill post some screen shots of the PWM tables later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgtOQqm2v54&list=UURx2NSG8XNZ-OEchngIgjtA&index=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr3UW8Cz8Mk&list=UURx2NSG8XNZ-OEchngIgjtA&index=1
 

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Switches were custom made. OTRATTW

Soon hopefully, Im debating on mounting the bottle in the cab, but to do that I have to redo the interior as I have a bench seat.

That and because the local track are sissys they don't open for at least a month :(
 

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You may need to look at a number of logs and make sure you see 100% throttle through a full pass. Im using my pcs to control my water injection and i bring it in at 95% because ive seen a little fluctuation in the tps signal going down track...even though my foot is buried to the floor. You wouldnt want the nitrous going in and out if the tps dropped to 99% then went back up.
Misunderstood by my stupid smart phone!
 

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You may need to look at a number of logs and make sure you see 100% throttle through a full pass. Im using my pcs to control my water injection and i bring it in at 95% because ive seen a little fluctuation in the tps signal going down track...even though my foot is buried to the floor. You wouldnt want the nitrous going in and out if the tps dropped to 99% then went back up.
Misunderstood by my stupid smart phone!

Good call Dennis. I had thoughts about that as well. More then likely will program for 80-100% as at 81% it treats it as WOT
 

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Thanks for the info. And why that long? Its prolly getting warm during the day up your way?

There morons... I dunno. All last week it was gorgeous, not a drop of rain and 17-20C* (70F*)
For some reason their season is middle of May-Late Sept/Early Oct if lucky
 

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There morons... I dunno. All last week it was gorgeous, not a drop of rain and 17-20C* (70F*)
For some reason their season is middle of May-Late Sept/Early Oct if lucky

Mission Raceway or somewhere else?
Let me know when you plan on making your first pass.
I'm just across the 49th but would love to make the trip up.
 

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Anyone care to school me on jet sizes. I have my 1st nozzle just before the boot to the intake elbow and the 2nd nozzle about 10" behind it. I was thinking a .052 and .099 ? But that's a wild ass guess.
 

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Sounds like a good starting point.

No more than .080 on the first stage (to keep drive train happy) and start around a .099 for your second. You really need to keep an eye on your back pressure, so dont go nuts right off the bat until you know how your setup is going to react.
 

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I think a .052 may be the ticket and a .099 on the 2nd to start.

I got er waste gated. Actually did it just for the nitrous.

Any ideas Dave on how fast to ramp in the 2nd stage
 

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Got everything wired in to my liking. Had to change things a but as the solenoids where to much for the pcs to power an it kept popping the fuse.

So I used the pmw to my first relay and once it sees 87-100% TPS in sends power via the pmw#5 to a second relay and acts as the control to open a 2nd relay which pulls power directly from the passenger side battery and sends it strait to both solenoids.
My 1st stage is still grounded to chassis and the 2nd is grounded to the pcs pmw#4 and is activated by mph.
Just need to figure out where I want to mount my bottle and test it. (also waiting on 2 more custom switches for my bottle heater and purge).
 

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