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Tried it out last night. Smooth as homemade vanilla. Just as Matt said, it's as if your stock until you dump off in it. Shifting is very forgiving. Doesn't have the touchy pedal jerking you around. Just from the one time I went WOT, seat of the pants feel isn't quite the 310 but I could be wrong. Don't get me wrong it is strong. I personally like the down low power of the 310. Doesn't take much pedal to get it down the road. I like the shifting and the tameness. By far best tune put out to date. I will drive it more today but first thought is to have a little more without so much pedal. Great job guys


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Get in contact with Mick in tech support on Monday. Do the 7.10 update, then it should be good. Anything v3.0 and up should work; v2 is too old.

Will do Matt. But Monday is a Holiday, I will still check but Tuesday is more along the time frame I was thinking. I tried calling today but yeah, no luck! It's all good I can wait.
I submited my new Race Disclaimer via PDF in the email I sent in. Will that work or should I fax it?

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I apologize if this has been covered in one of the other threads for this tuning update... But has anything been taken into account when creating this beta tune for guys with built transmissions? I'd like to try this tune out tomorrow, but didnt see anyone mention using it with built trannys.
 

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Will do Matt. But Monday is a Holiday, I will still check but Tuesday is more along the time frame I was thinking. I tried calling today but yeah, no luck! It's all good I can wait.
I submited my new Race Disclaimer via PDF in the email I sent in. Will that work or should I fax it?

Luke

We will be open Monday.

I believe PDF copy should be fine, but check with Spade. He's the resident disclaimer Nazi here.
 

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I apologize if this has been covered in one of the other threads for this tuning update... But has anything been taken into account when creating this beta tune for guys with built transmissions? I'd like to try this tune out tomorrow, but didnt see anyone mention using it with built trannys.

We had a facebook user try it, and said it was much better. It may still be a bit firm on the initial download, but should soften to the same firmness as a normal trans after a test drive.

As mentioned, one of the things I addressed in this was clutch binding on the 3-5 shift with a built trans, which can snap an intermediate shaft. This has a much wider margin of safety, wider margin of adaptation and should overall be much more gentile on hard parts. I've only been able to test it on one of our two trucks here with built transmissions, as I have the other apart for some other work.

It does work very well on my Suncoast here (with STOCK solenoids, I don't recommend any modified direct solenoids in any builds, they just exacerbate 3-5 clutch timing issues between the intermediates and directs).
 

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My tranny has stock solenoids as well. That makes me feel better, thank you for the clarification on that. I'll load this up tomorrow and run it for a week or so and give some feedback! Thanks again for all the efforts with this guys
 

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Matt...... I am a 210 TP guy., How will this work with my 23000 GVWR, when I'm pulling my 5er?????

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Just picked me up a ******* Tuner so I can try these out. Can't wait for custom tuning.!


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Matt...... I am a 210 TP guy., How will this work with my 23000 GVWR, when I'm pulling my 5er?????

The Worry Guy??

With proper oil/coolant/trans temp monitoring, it will be fine. Really comes down to the drivers right foot. Keep in mind that just like the 310 and 350, it will not defuel on its own. As long as that is understood, there's no technical reason you can't.

I keep a 310 (and now this file) in my F450 that pulls my excavator.
9000lb truck, 21000lb excavator, 7600lb trailer, and an extra bucket at times. I'm gentle with my right foot, but I don't care if I break something either.
 

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IIRC I believe Rudys puts modified solenoids in their transmissions. Interested to see how these tunes react to the trans. I have had lots of trouble getting a smooth but firm shift from other tuners.


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Excellent work, Matt love new tune I didn't go WOT yet though LOL. I put about 75 miles on it ,driving around town characteristics is excellent as noted it does feel A bit down on power on the bottom end though (getting up and go for a stop light for example) compared to the 310. (Which I ran as a DD tune, it's a F-350 CCSB DRW with 4.30s.)

Other than that it drives excellent, shifting is very refined and shifts similar to my buddies Spar, tuned 15 which I like very much and no more touchy pedal.

Other than the bottom end it's a excellent tune, it's "light years" ahead of the older files.
 

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I'm in need of updated my dashdaq i believe it's a v2. I've sent the disclaimer in about 3 years ago and already have an account set up. Will I need to send another? Also, are you able to still have the 310 tune when you download the new files yall have put out?

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I'm in need of updated my dashdaq i believe it's a v2. I've sent the disclaimer in about 3 years ago and already have an account set up. Will I need to send another? Also, are you able to still have the 310 tune when you download the new files yall have put out?

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Yes you are in the same boat as me. I too am on V2. So yes you have to redo a disclaimer, I printed mine out and signed it then Made it into a PDF and emailed it and also let them know I wanted to update to 7.10. When you update to 7.10 you get all the tunes back. You have to down this new tune via the link Matt posted 2 pages back. Just download it and unzip it then place it on your memory card. Then you should be good to go. All the instructions are on their webpage. I hope this helps.
 

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Extremely impressed with what im hearing. On screen tuning adjustments sounds very cool. Will have to check it out


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Excellent work, Matt love new tune I didn't go WOT yet though LOL. I put about 75 miles on it ,driving around town characteristics is excellent as noted it does feel A bit down on power on the bottom end though (getting up and go for a stop light for example) compared to the 310. (Which I ran as a DD tune, it's a F-350 CCSB DRW with 4.30s.)

Other than that it drives excellent, shifting is very refined and shifts similar to my buddies Spar, tuned 15 which I like very much and no more touchy pedal.

Other than the bottom end it's a excellent tune, it's "light years" ahead of the older files.

It's sounds like for a lot of guys it's kind of a light switch type tune. Very subtle power until you want to use everything on tap.
 

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Excellent work, Matt love new tune I didn't go WOT yet though LOL. I put about 75 miles on it ,driving around town characteristics is excellent as noted it does feel A bit down on power on the bottom end though (getting up and go for a stop light for example) compared to the 310. (Which I ran as a DD tune, it's a F-350 CCSB DRW with 4.30s.)

Other than that it drives excellent, shifting is very refined and shifts similar to my buddies Spar, tuned 15 which I like very much and no more touchy pedal.

Other than the bottom end it's a excellent tune, it's "light years" ahead of the older files.

The "loss" of bottom end is only in the pedal mapping- it simply takes more pedal to request the same torque from the ECM as it did before. It could be added back to the file pretty easily in a custom file. We mapped it like that due to customer input that the old files were touchy/hard to modulate at low throttle and speed.
 

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On-Screen Tuning Upgrades/Additions

Thought I'd sneak some pictures of progress on the upgrades and additions to our on-screen tuning.

I've added a ton of stuff- enough to damn nearly eliminate the need for "custom" tuning for many of you, in the conventional sense.

Options added on BETA:

Injector Nozzle Sizing
Allows selection between stock/default, 30% over, 60% over, 100% over, and 150% over nozzles. This is a global change to all fueling and pulsewidth (except WOT) that will calibrate nozzles back to necessary fueling levels.

Peak Injection Pulsewidth
Selections between 1.5ms, 1.6ms, 1.7ms, 1.8ms, 1.9ms, 2.0ms, 2.1ms, 2.2ms, 2.3ms, 2.4ms, and 2.5ms. This encompasses the max pulsewidth used in 95% of applications from small nozzles on a stock pump, to larger nozzles on dual K16's or larger. Simply raise the pulsewidth to your liking, or until it starts draining fuel rails.

Turbocharger Selection
Selections between Stock, Modified VGT (71 to 73mm Low Pressure, stock to 60mm High Pressure), Modified VGT (75 to 76mm LP, 59-60mm HP), Modified VGT (75 to 76mm LP, 61-66mm HP), or Fixed Geometry.

Modified VGT selections will correct VGT feedforward controller and exhaust backpressure tables for optimal operation with the selected turbochargers.

Fixed Geometry setting will turn off VGT controller, and disable diagnostic trouble codes associated, for use with non-VGT. This works for both single turbos or non-VGT compounds.

Low Boost Fueling/Smoke Control
Adjustable from Stock to +50%, in 10% increments, along with "OFF" This adjustment range is wide enough to eliminate smoke on the low end, and spool even large turbos on the high end.

Cooling Fan Engagement Temp, Engine
Full speed fan engagement temperature based on engine coolant. Allows selection from 215 to 230 degrees F.

Cooling Fan Engagement Temp, Trans
Full speed fan engagement temperature based on trans temp. Allows selection from 215 to 230 degrees F.

High Pressure Fuel System
Selectable between Stock, Aftermarket Single HPFP (such as the II Dragonfire), Dual K16/K16 (such as Elite's kit) and Dual K16/CP3 (River City and others).

This will correct VCV, PCV, and rail pressure settings, adaptive fuel pressure control parameters, and modify diagnostics to work with the selected system.

Throttle Dampening
Turns throttle dampening on or off. On for smoother throttle input, off for quicker response. Your choice.

Engine Rev Limiter
Self explanatory. Can choose between tune default, 3500, 3750, 4000, 4250, or 4500 and 4750 for built engines.

EGT Defueling Setpoint
Self explanatory. Configurable from 1400 to 1800 degrees, or OFF.

Oil Temperature Defueling Setpoint
Self explanatory. Configurable from 230 to 260 degrees, or OFF.

Coolant Temperature Defueling Setpoint
Self explanatory. Configurable from 230 to 250 degrees, or OFF.

Fuel Temperature Defueling Setpoint
Self explanatory. Configurable from 170 to 230 degrees, or OFF.

Transmission Hardware
Selections between Stock, Suncoast, River City, Elite, Midwest, and ATS. These settings will correct clutch pack boost times, shift pressures, and adaptive parameters to match the selected transmission.

Converter Stall RPM
Selections between 1600RPM, 1800RPM(Stock), 2000RPM, 2200RPM, and 2400RPM. Corrects k-factor calculations and torque converter lockup speed ratios.

Shift Solenoids
Selectable between stock or modified direct solenoid. Corrects boost time and shift pressures for a modded direct clutch solenoid, such as Suncoast.

1st though 6th Gear Torque Converter Lockup and Unlock Scheduling, Wide Open Throttle
Add or subtract in MPH to converter lock and unlock scheduling for each gear (10 adjustable parameters total)

5th and 6th Gear Torque Converter Lockup and Unlock Scheduling, Part Throttle
Adjustable in MPH for low and part throttle lockup and unlock, separately from WOT. Not available for gears 1, 2, and 3 since lockup is not used.

WOT RPM Based Shift Points
Configurable from 3100RPM to 4000RPM for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th gears independently.

1st through 6th Gear Upshift and Downshift Scheduling
1-2, 2-1, 2-3, 3-2, 3-5, 5-3, 5-6, and 6-5 Shift schedules adjustable by MPH. 10 independent tables for shift customization.

6th Gear Tow/Haul Lockout

On/Off selection. Selecting on blocks 6th gear in Tow/Haul, effectively making the Tow/Haul button an Overdrive On/Off selection. Useful for guys running large turbos who need to downshift to keep the turbo spooled, for various purposes.

Shift Firmness
Shift firmness adjustable for 1-2, 2-3, 3-5, and 5-6 shifts independently. Adjustable by percentage, -20% to +25%. Adjustments correct shift pressures and transmission adaptive slip times simultaneously, to the desired shift feel.

Torque Converter Lockup Firmness
Selectable from -20% to +30%. Adjusts converter lockup pressures and adaptive slip times simultaneously

These are added on top of our already existing parameters.

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Injector Pulsewidth selection
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Nozzle Size selection
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Turbocharger selection
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High Pressure Fuel System selection
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Transmission Hardware selection
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Low Boost Fueling selection
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If anyone has any suggestions on things you'd like to see added, feel free.
 
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The "loss" of bottom end is only in the pedal mapping- it simply takes more pedal to request the same torque from the ECM as it did before. It could be added back to the file pretty easily in a custom file. We mapped it like that due to customer input that the old files were touchy/hard to modulate at low throttle and speed.

Got a question, Is peak boost increased over the 310? Seems like turbo whistle is louder than the 310 at WOT (I haven't paid attention to the DD much), It could be just me LOL.

Rolling from 60 to WOT I can "feel" SOTP alittle more power over the old 310.

Does the pilot injecton kick off earlier in the RPM band in the 325? At highway cruising speed (60-62 MPH, 18-1900 RPM) seems a bit louder compared to the 310.

(Which I was assuming it's the pilots, doesn't bother me at all, I'm just curious is all.)

It's very progressive power which is excellent for dd'ing.

No touchy pedal, excellent smooth shifting, for comparsion purposes this tune drives very similar to (GH hot street).

It drives very nice, thank you for uploading this beta file, Matt.

For anyone thinking of trying, this new file give it a go.
 

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Got a question, Is peak boost increased over the 310? Seems like turbo whistle is louder than the 310 at WOT (I haven't paid attention to the DD much), It could be just me LOL.

Rolling from 60 to WOT I can "feel" SOTP alittle more power over the old 310.

Does the pilot injecton kick off earlier in the RPM band in the 325? At highway cruising speed (60-62 MPH, 18-1900 RPM) seems a bit louder compared to the 310.

(Which I was assuming it's the pilots, doesn't bother me at all, I'm just curious is all.)

It's very progressive power which is excellent for dd'ing.

No touchy pedal, excellent smooth shifting, for comparsion purposes this tune drives very similar to (GH hot street).

It drives very nice, thank you for uploading this beta file, Matt.

For anyone thinking of trying, this new file give it a go.

Glad to hear you are liking it. There is just a little more boost (about 3 %) than the old file, and a twinge less timing. Brings peak firing pressure, and associated stress, down, while still making the same or better power.

Pilot injections weren't modified, but torque management was, so you may feel things "moved around" a bit despite there being no changes to the tables themselves.

Make sure you catch the post below yours, in case you missed it, since we posted around the same time. :thumbsup:
 
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