warren diesel trans

Dzchey21 · Sep 3, 2012

Erikclaw said:
I was just saying for me it would be a pia. I don't know how they do their warantee work and never claimed to. If they do that cool, but if it went out on a regular basis no thanks. You can keep your knife and gun and go play in a closet.

I think I was confusing these guys and ATS's stuff.

Yeah defiantly confused and your right I don't understand. How.people fail parts over and over with no changes. That's the definition if insanity...

And no automatic will live forever without at least a refresh

blk350on20s · Sep 4, 2012

Youre gonna break shafts. No way around it when you step up in power level. Ive had mine out a lot lately because i did all my own trans work and 47 bucks for an intermediate was a lot better than 750 for a billet. Getting towed home sucked so i went billet. Transmission is something youre gonna spend big money on. Specialized product with specialized knowledge. Fwiw i run suncoast clutches and the shafts are billet. Trans has over 100000 miles on it and its still puttin power down

powerstrokin15 · Sep 4, 2012

the thing that aggravates me is the massive amount of people that shoot products down, before anyone has even ran it. I agree we need to hear real proof, but sit back and wait. don't just assume its gonna be a piece of crap, at the same time assume its gonna be god sent.

Eric@HolderdownPerformance

97strokn&smokn · Sep 4, 2012

BTS build one hell of a 4r-e40 but his 5r110s were not very dependable when he first started building them one of my buddys and customer went through 3 of them. I do believe now he is getting them figured out. But the difference in making a built 5r live longer is the tuning the more the tranny builder spends tuning that 5r the longer its gonna last.

Wayne · Sep 4, 2012

:whs: tuning plays a critical role in the life of the 5R. bad tuning can waste the best of transmissions.

Jeff@Spartan · Sep 4, 2012

powerstrokin15 said:
the thing that aggravates me is the massive amount of people that shoot products down, before anyone has even ran it. I agree we need to hear real proof, but sit back and wait. don't just assume its gonna be a piece of crap, at the same time assume its gonna be god sent.

Eric@HolderdownPerformance

I don't think anyone is shooting down Jesse's transmission. They're shooting down the praise a select few have for something that isn't proven yet. When someone praises a product, they need to back that praise up with facts showing this product has been put through the same tests that others have and performed just as well.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Sep 4, 2012

Does anyone have a 5r110 on order that is going in a 6.4 with more than just a tuner/exhaust/intake?
If so please post up so we can follow along.

The price is fantastic, the guys that run Warren Diesel are fantastic, now all we need is some results....which I personally think are soon to follow.

713Diesel · Sep 4, 2012

Wayne said:
:whs: tuning plays a critical role in the life of the 5R. bad tuning can waste the best of transmissions.

This is what I was thinking while reading through all the pages in this thread. Honestly I don't see how anyone can give a lifetime warranty on something that someone else has the ability to control. For that matter I don't see how Elite gives the warranty they do...... I believe it is 10k mi? What is to keep someone from getting to 9k mi and going to Mr local tuner and say "hey man I will give you 500 bucks to write me a tune that is going to burn up my Transmission so I can get a new one right before the warranty is up"? If I were a transmission builder this would be a BIG concern of mine. I try to have faith in my fellow man but all of us know that there are some really crummy people out there in this world.

Erikclaw · Sep 4, 2012

But if when they tear into it and decide it was not the tranny that failed, I am sure they would tell him that it is not covered.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Sep 4, 2012

713Diesel said:
This is what I was thinking while reading through all the pages in this thread. Honestly I don't see how anyone can give a lifetime warranty on something that someone else has the ability to control. For that matter I don't see how Elite gives the warranty they do...... I believe it is 10k mi? What is to keep someone from getting to 9k mi and going to Mr local tuner and say "hey man I will give you 500 bucks to write me a tune that is going to burn up my Transmission so I can get a new one right before the warranty is up"? If I were a transmission builder this would be a BIG concern of mine. I try to have faith in my fellow man but all of us know that there are some really crummy people out there in this world.

Same as the 4r or the e40d though, they can all be toasted if you really want to!

713Diesel · Sep 4, 2012

Right. But with all of the tuning capabilities on the 5r you have more ability to write a tune that could tear up the clutches only pretty quick by the way it shifts and when and all that good stuff? Yeah you can tear anything up but on the old E4OD I think you could spot out blatant abuse better or am I incorrect? For the record I know nothing about tuning or transmissions I am just saying what I have heard/read, I am not trying to sound like a specialist.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Sep 4, 2012

713Diesel said:
Right. But with all of the tuning capabilities on the 5r you have more ability to write a tune that could tear up the clutches only pretty quick by the way it shifts and when and all that good stuff? Yeah you can tear anything up but on the old E4OD I think you could spot out blatant abuse better or am I incorrect? For the record I know nothing about tuning or transmissions I am just saying what I have heard/read, I am not trying to sound like a specialist.

Your correct, the 4r seems to take the abuse, alot has to do with the mechanic side of things rather than electronic solenoids, from what i gather.

But unfortunately its the name of the game, if you build a product that you want to sell it has got to come with a warranty... and you have to expect idiots out there to use that warranty for sure. As these 6.4s become more easily built to 1000hp the transmissions are becoming very scarce as far as ones willing to hold the power day in and day out.

I for one would not want to warranty a transmission, but some people out there are confident in their product and that surely helps all of us out a bunch!

faster6.0 · Sep 5, 2012

PTSUPERD · Sep 5, 2012

Enough. carry on in awol. Made you guys a new thread there.

lincolnlocker · Sep 5, 2012

also all the trannys named need to be seperated as to what power level they hold to... like for instance if you buy a bts for a bone stock truck whats the likelihood that it will most likely last forever? and same tranny at 500hp how long do they last... and so on and so forth.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Sep 5, 2012

lincolnlocker said:
also all the trannys named need to be seperated as to what power level they hold to... like for instance if you buy a bts for a bone stock truck whats the likelihood that it will most likely last forever? and same tranny at 500hp how long do they last... and so on and so forth.

wish it could be done like that... but it has so much to do with driving habits, tuning, and how the truck is used.

a truck that lives at the drag strip, spooling larger singles (even at lower hp levels), will need refreshed much more often than joe blow with 700hp that just cruises daily.

lincolnlocker · Sep 5, 2012

forgot to add that driving habits need to be listed too!

Wayne · Sep 5, 2012

You mean something like this?:

https://www.elitedieselengineering.com/product/14810001/EDE-5R110-Transmission-for-64-Powerstroke/

Here's the part I'm referencing here

Stage 0:
A fully rebuilt transmission to better than OEM specs. Internal modifications for improved reliability. This trans is designed for slightly more than stock power levels.

Stage 1:
Our Heavy Duty Trans. Upgraded Raybestos Clutch material and clutch quantity for greater surface area to allow for better holding power. Kolene steels for resistance to heat and wear. Trans is designed for 500+ hp applications.

Stage 2:
Our H/D trans with a Billet input shaft and Billet Low/Reverse Hub. Trans is designed for 600hp applications.

Stage 3:
Our H/D trans will all our Billet Internals. Billet input shaft, Intermediate Shaft, Overdrive Planetary, and Low/Reverse Hub. This trans is the ultimate setup for daily driven trucks that have good power.

Stage 4:
Our Competition designed transmission. Additional clutch quantity over our H/D version as well as more aggressive clutch materials. Includes all our Billet internals. Billet input shaft, Intermediate Shaft, Overdrive Planetary, and Low/Reverse Hub. Designed for the weekend warrior and 700+ hp outputs.

Stage 5:
The end all of 5R110 transmissions. Even more clutch material than our Stage 4. More aggressive in all areas. Includes all our Billet internals. Billet input shaft, Intermediate Shaft, Overdrive Planetary, and Low/Reverse Hub. Requires custom transmission tuning.

The levels listed are rated on the safe side for trucks with proper tuning. If anyone has any suggestions on what should be added to the highlighted part in red, we would be willing to consider helpful revision suggestions.