Turbos

JDub · May 18, 2011

I don't think it's a fair comparison for the WOP single to be up against those HP twins, talking about two totally different spectrums of airflow. The single was built as a stock replacement to alleviate drive pressure and drop egt's.It was never engineered to be pushed with large injectors and fuel systems, can it support some mild nozzles? I'm sure it will, but not what it was designed for. The truck made 607hp uncorrected at elevation with nothing but a DPF delete and a tune with the single. The correction factor put it over 630.

We have all seen how impressive those big twins BigR is running are on an otherwise stock truck, and probably offer better driveability and towing. But again, two different spectrums.

I really enjoyed my truck with the single on it, very impressive power and great on the street, only time it felt laggy was on the freeway at 55-60mph when it shifted to O/D and the converter was locked. Everywhere else that turbo is just as responsive as the stock turbos.

SEABEE08FX4 · May 18, 2011

I didn't mean for it to be a direct comparison, just wanting something better than stock with out drivability issues and wanted some feed back from people who have tried both combos. I understand they are two different animals. My cap on hp would be in the 650 to 700 range for a daily driver anyway.

Any more news on the kit?

JDub · May 18, 2011

I really don't think driveability is an issue with the single. As for kits, we are just waiting on the machinist and the lazer cut place, getting the pedestal plates and up-pipe flanges cut, once we get those back we can start fabricating some mount kits. I got word that an order of turbine housings and wheels should be at Bell Turbo shortly, so he'll be able to start putting the turbos together soon we hope as well...

SEABEE08FX4 · May 19, 2011

JDub said:
I really don't think driveability is an issue with the single. As for kits, we are just waiting on the machinist and the lazer cut place, getting the pedestal plates and up-pipe flanges cut, once we get those back we can start fabricating some mount kits. I got word that an order of turbine housings and wheels should be at Bell Turbo shortly, so he'll be able to start putting the turbos together soon we hope as well...

Sweet.

Any idea how far out the compound upgrade is?

eric.davis · May 19, 2011

SEABEE08FX4 said:
Sweet.

Any idea how far out the compound upgrade is?

This is one of the things that I would love to see them do some testing on. If they can get it setup to compare to Elites HP or even possibly MP

StockCar#10 · May 19, 2011

eric.davis said:
This is one of the things that I would love to see them do some testing on. If they can get it setup to compare to Elites HP or even possibly MP

:whs:

JDub · May 19, 2011

SEABEE08FX4 said:
Sweet.

Any idea how far out the compound upgrade is?

We have the low pressure turbo built, just need to get the single mount kits built then find a truck for mockup so we can build a compound system.

SEABEE08FX4 · May 19, 2011

JDub said:
We have the low pressure turbo built, just need to get the single mount kits built then find a truck for mockup so we can build a compound system.

Any idea on a ETA and some pics/spec on the LP unit. Also any idea on a price point?

Matt · May 19, 2011

We need more companies to make twin kits for us. There just isn't enough options out there. I would love to have a set of Elite's, but for a little less money, I would have no problem sacrificing a little spool up.

eric.davis · May 19, 2011

Matt said:
We need more companies to make twin kits for us. There just isn't enough options out there. I would love to have a set of Elite's, but for a little less money, I would have no problem sacrificing a little spool up.

I agree on more companies needing to invest more in the R&D. I know it takes money to do it. But there is quite a number of people that would be interested in the other options. Right now Elite pretty much has a monopoly on the 6.4 game

Matt · May 19, 2011

They definately do, not that I am knocking Elite or anything, it'd just be nice to have more options.

eric.davis · May 19, 2011

Either am I. They're the pioneers for it. But they charge what they do because they use quality parts and they work so theres a price for perfection.

SEABEE08FX4 · May 19, 2011

I'd like something like a S300/S400 combo, cost effective and plenty of power on tap. I dont mind journal bearings even though BB's are sweet the price vs drop in spool up time isnt worth it for me. If I raced it everyday then yeah but just to have better towing power plus stomping on the occasional dodge/chevy its not that important to me. Mainly I'd just like to drop EGT's/BP without being laggy while still haveing potential to reach 700 wrhp.

CAT35niner · May 19, 2011

JDub said:
We have the low pressure turbo built, just need to get the single mount kits built then find a truck for mockup so we can build a compound system.

Im glad to hear that. I would donate my truck for the donor but im to far away. This compound kit would be my choice or elite tow powers.

Nos_GTSR · May 20, 2011

You looked at II stage 1s? They'll support 650-700.

StockCar#10 · May 20, 2011

SEABEE08FX4 said:
I'd like something like a S300/S400 combo, cost effective and plenty of power on tap. I dont mind journal bearings even though BB's are sweet the price vs drop in spool up time isnt worth it for me. If I raced it everyday then yeah but just to have better towing power plus stomping on the occasional dodge/chevy its not that important to me. Mainly I'd just like to drop EGT's/BP without being laggy while still haveing potential to reach 700 wrhp.

im with you on this.. if a cheap turbo setup can be had and make all the same respectable power as tow/high/max powers for a cheaper cost them im all for it.. i mean i personally dont mind the idea of have a couple of 1,200 dollar turbos under my hood as aposed to a set that cost more than a down payment on a house lmao

in no way am i knocking elite either.. i understand quality and what it takes to be an inovater in this game..

SEABEE08FX4 · May 20, 2011

Nos_GTSR said:
You looked at II stage 1s? They'll support 650-700.

No I haven't, where can I find some info on them? Is there a stage II set?

Nos_GTSR · May 20, 2011

Stage 2 is in the works.

http://www.rudysdiesel.com/_e/Turbo_Upgrades/product/IISPS715764CMP/Industrial_Injection_Phat_shaft_compound.htm

SEABEE08FX4 · May 20, 2011

Nos_GTSR said:
Stage 2 is in the works.

http://www.rudysdiesel.com/_e/Turbo_Upgrades/product/IISPS715764CMP/Industrial_Injection_Phat_shaft_compound.htm

What's the specs on the stage II set? And on the stage I set is there any exhaust housing mods to help with BP or is it just the compressor side only. What set are you running and what's your impression of them? Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks