Is pulling the filter minder shut ok?

[bigrpowr]

I am glad this is getting addressed. Jim and I talked about it the other day and I pretty much told him to do what he needs to so the filter minder isn't an issue. I want to be able to not worry about things like this, hopefully the next couple of days we can work it out. Thanks guys for diving into this issue.

im working on a custom stock location airbox as we speak, well as soon as beef nachos gets off his ass.

 

[powr2stroke]

bullwhip is in the mail

 

[Super08Duty]

I clean my AFE filter every other week, never pulled the filter minder shut, i also don't keep the top on it and no longer have the micro sock thing that goes over it. Seems like the bigger the filter the less of a problem you would have.

 

[O2ShootTheJ]

im working on a custom stock location airbox as we speak, well as soon as beef nachos gets off his ass.

Make sure you post up here. Looking to move to a new set up if my streetbike ever sells

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[Ipkyss]

As I posted before. I ran the "Green Filter" drop in for 20k I believe in my truck with no issues running the Spartan 310. I would clean it every 3-4k. I live on a very dusty dirt road. Switched to the S&B oiled filter, First run sucked the filter in. Pulled the top off. Was good to go with the 310. Added elite amos turbo and it sucked the minder in way before 40psi boost. I unplugged it just because I was sick of looking at it.

 

[madman1234509]

I clean my AFE filter every other week, never pulled the filter minder shut, i also don't keep the top on it and no longer have the micro sock thing that goes over it. Seems like the bigger the filter the less of a problem you would have.

^^^ yes, more surface area to allow air into the intake. I would not expect an S&B intake or possibly an AFE intake to allow enough airflow on a big turbo setup. I would say atleast an intake pipe with the minimum amount of bends in it, and a BIG filter. The guy that works on my truck has an 07 cummins with a 83mm large garrett and a 64mm small garrett compund set up and his intake pipe is the size of the intake on the turbo which I believe is 5" and the filter makes my afe filter look like a filter off of a honda civic. Same way in the Audi community. When I had my twin turbo A6, anytime someone did a big turbo set up, youd have to expect to run a custom intake with a big filter because a regular aftermarket setup off the shelf was never intended for a big turbo setup. Plus on our afe and S&B intakes, whats the first thing it does when it comes off the turbo.... bends right toward the fender

 

[bigrpowr]

^^^ yes, more surface area to allow air into the intake. I would not expect an S&B intake or possibly an AFE intake to allow enough airflow on a big turbo setup. I would say atleast an intake pipe with the minimum amount of bends in it, and a BIG filter. The guy that works on my truck has an 07 cummins with a 83mm large garrett and a 64mm small garrett compund set up and his intake pipe is the size of the intake on the turbo which I believe is 5" and the filter makes my afe filter look like a filter off of a honda civic. Same way in the Audi community. When I had my twin turbo A6, anytime someone did a big turbo set up, youd have to expect to run a custom intake with a big filter because a regular aftermarket setup off the shelf was never intended for a big turbo setup. Plus on our afe and S&B intakes, whats the first thing it does when it comes off the turbo.... bends right toward the fender

so is the elite intake elbows for the CAI .. 5" like the big turbo iirc .

 

[Erikclaw]

im working on a custom stock location airbox as we speak, well as soon as beef nachos gets off his ass.

Damn that taco guy. Would love to hear what you came up with. Keep me posted.

 

[Powerstroked162]

Didn't Farlow do something for Shone's whip?

 

[Wayne]

Erik: were you pulling in the filter minder with the setup it had when it left toxic, or was that a new thing with the better intake and 110's?

 

[Erikclaw]

Erik: were you pulling in the filter minder with the setup it had when it left toxic, or was that a new thing with the better intake and 110's?

That one we pieced together at toxic worked better, but it would still suck it in. Just not as quickly as the other set up. Now it sounds like with the intake and 110's it is much worse. Mike said he would pull it in the very first hard acceleration.

 

[Wayne]

Does this mean you're getting the whale penis filter then?imp:

 

[White_monster]

Whale penis intake FTW

 

[Erikclaw]

:shocked: not sure, will see what Mike and Dustin have come up with during their testing etc and go from there. If I have to, I have to.
Nice description in your signature Wayne

You Canadians sure love fish. LOL

 

[Dzchey21]

I sent mike with a new dash daq harness with two map sensors so we can read Turbo inlet pressure hopefully this.gives us some more info.as to.how bad it really is.

 

[jdgleason]

:shocked: not sure, will see what Mike and Dustin have come up with during their testing etc and go from there. If I have to, I have to.
Nice description in your signature Wayne

You Canadians sure love fish. LOL

Wayne you should update your sig. You dont have the chrome flame tint anymore.

 

[mike@haller's]

Well this was actually easier to fix than I thought it would be. With the help of dustin we put a map sensor in place of the air filter minder and used dustin's boost harness for the dashdaq to read it. Its a pretty cold day here this morning so atmospheric pressure was 12.1 psi. With Erics current air filter it pulled down to 10.9 psi a 1.2 psi drop. An acceptable drop according to donaldson is .3 psi. I procured a new AFE air filter that is quite a bit larger than erics current filter. When I tested the new filter atmosphere was 11.9 and under a full run it pulls down to 11.6 right in line with the .3 acceptance. The filter minder no longer pulls down at all either. Just for comparison I also did a full run with no filter. Atmosphere was 11.9 and with no filter it pulled to 11.6 as well. So i'm pretty confident this filter will work fine as long as it is kept clean.
I also for comparison since it was here went out and tried this on Mal's Max Power turbo truck. He has a Banks air box with no lid on it. Atmoshere was 11.9 and his pulled down to 11.2 a .7 drop. His truck however does not pull the filter minder in. But it looks like his truck will be getting a new intake system as well.

 

[mike@haller's]

Here is the new filter that went on erics truck.

 

[Dzchey21]

Well this was actually easier to fix than I thought it would be. With the help of dustin we put a map sensor in place of the air filter minder and used dustin's boost harness for the dashdaq to read it. Its a pretty cold day here this morning so atmospheric pressure was 12.1 psi. With Erics current air filter it pulled down to 10.9 psi a 1.2 psi drop. An acceptable drop according to donaldson is .3 psi. I procured a new AFE air filter that is quite a bit larger than erics current filter. When I tested the new filter atmosphere was 11.9 and under a full run it pulls down to 11.6 right in line with the .3 acceptance. The filter minder no longer pulls down at all either. Just for comparison I also did a full run with no filter. Atmosphere was 11.9 and with no filter it pulled to 11.6 as well. So i'm pretty confident this filter will work fine as long as it is kept clean.
I also for comparison since it was here went out and tried this on Mal's Max Power turbo truck. He has a Banks air box with no lid on it. Atmoshere was 11.9 and his pulled down to 11.2 a .7 drop. His truck however does not pull the filter minder in. But it looks like his truck will be getting a new intake system as well.

Awesome info glad the harness worked out testing

Pretty invaluable information for Turbo life

 

[MINK]

Thanks for taking the time Mike!